Romney has integrity, he won't run with McCain unless McCain changes some of his stances
Posted by unitethegop at 2/13/2008 6:51 AM and is filed under uncategorized 
I know Romney is a man of sincere integrity and truth. He won't want to smear his name by being McCain's running mate unless McCain agrees to change his policies on some of the issues. McCain's record shows he'll do anything to win. What do you think?
McCain knows that he has to appeal to the conservative vote to have their support. He will have to work very persuasively in communicating his adoption of conservative principles. Having Romney as his running mate is the first step of that communication process.
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Hi Unite,
You need to let everyone know just how liberal Obama and Hillary are. As much as I dislike McCain, he is far more conservative than Obama or Hillary. As far as Hillary and Obama go, they are just as bad or worse on illegal immigration.
At least if McCain chooses Romney as VP, we will have some conservative input during the next 4 years. And, I ABSOLUTELY do not think that McCain could last over his 1st term . In fact, I think he may not last through one. He is older in person than he looks on T,V. and the presidency takes such a toll on a person. If we hold our breath and put up with McCain for 4 years, a Romney VP slate would give us who we really want in '12.
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AMEN! That would be something if McCain was called back to be with God and left Romney running the show. I have always dreaded voting because I always felt that I was voting for the lesser of the two weevils. Romney has been the ONLY person I have EVER been excited about voting for guilt free. Any other way than Romney in my mind is so depressing I can’t even bare to think about it. If the Dems win this one and Romney wins the next one he will be stuck cleaning up Obama’s or Hillary’s messes such as socialized heath care and Iraq early pull out consequences. That would not be one act I would want to follow!!!
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Rebecca,
First, I would like to thank you for your enthusiasm and input on the site. I feel as you do. I will probably create a new entry later on concerning the liberal differences between Obama and Clinton vs. McCain. Believe me, no one more than I could not want Clinton or Obama in the white house. As far as I'm concerned if they get elected, we might as well be socialists instead of having a republic form of government that our founding fathers gave their lives for. At this point, I really want to keep the focus on the necessity of getting votes for Romney. The more votes he is able to get, the more delegates, the more it will show the GOP we want him, the more it will keep votes from McCain and Huckabee...which McCain will end up having enough for the nomination either on his own achievement- or with the combined delegates from our hopeful Romney, or perhaps as you said we'll get a split ballot and the delegates will re-cast votes and we'll get Romney as President
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I agree with you Unite. We need to somehow keep this in the media and promote it like crazy. The only thing I would concerned about in McCain changing his positions is that "flip-flopper" non-sense the Dems would bring up. Somehow, the term "open-mindedness" needs to start entering into political rhetoric. There has to be an easy way out for McCain to change some of his positions or at least give Romney a significant amount of power in his office to support the concept of "balance of power" in the decision making process. After all, we don't want to lose any of the moderates and Democrats who would vote for us in the general election. I know that Mitt has always encouraged a strong debate over issues. A culture of debate over issues in two extremes brings out multiple sides of an issue. Obviously, Romney would represent the conservative position in such a debate.
We must all remember that the nature of politics is compromise. This means that politicians will vote on the higher priority over lower priorities. Not to discredit the lower priorities, but to give value to those priorities that are of greater interest to them and their general constituents. Everything is negotiable! As an example: What would we choose if the Democrats in congress accepted the illegal immigration proposal of the Republicans on condition that it come out of the budget for the war in Iraq! One of these would win while the other loses. The liberal media would then spin it to show that the GOP was against one or the other.
So far, Romney has chosen to stand behind McCain as the nominee of our party even though he has different stands on issues. That act in itself is a compromise for a higher priority (the unity of the party). I am in agreement however with you that there still needs to be some consessions by McCain as our nominee.
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MCcain is a rat and it is true that he will do anything to win. Why would America want a man like that running this nation? So far it seems to me that America doesn't really want him. People seem to be voting for him because they don't want to waste their votes even if he will destroy this nation. America wants Romney. Romney has integrity. He will lead this country to greatness and fix the problems that we are so deep into as a nation right now. Romney would never go with MCcain. His integrity would never let him work with such a rat. Unless, MCcain decides to have a little integrity himself. And honestly, I don't think that will ever happen in a million years.
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While I have major reservations about McCain, I have discovered another way of looking at McCain's candidacy. McCain does appeal to the moderates and many Democrats who are furious over their gender or race choices. While he may attract a great many of those demographics, Romney will still attract those who support the conservative issues we represent. A wise investor always diversifies their portfolio rather than placing all of their fortune into one investment. This is exactly what we are trying to do in making Romney our choice for Vice President.
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It is true. MCcain's own children don't even like him. You would think that they know him best and if they aren't proud to have their own father lead this nation than why would we ever be?
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I think the person you are referring to is Rudy Guiliani. At least, that is my understanding. I could be wrong!
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HI Unite,
I posted a comment on FOX News Blog page and on Gov. Romney's website telling people about www.unitethegop.com. Is there any way to see how many people are viewing it? I think some people come, but just don't leave a comment. At least I hope so.
On The FOX news website, many, many people were talking about not wanting to vote without Romney, and especially not wanting to vote for McCain. Hopefully some of them came here.
Keep up the good work!
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Thanks Rebecca. I just checked the stats on the site....NOT including today we've had 3,901 Requests since Sunday. This means lots of people are looking at the site. Perhaps they aren't all bloggers.
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I also checked on the site stats where we are getting the most daily site referrals. They are coming from FOXNEWS blogs. So keep on blogging and telling people about the site in FOXNEWS. Thanks
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Hi Unite,
I just left several comments on Ann Coulter's Chat site. I left responses to people who were expressing great disappointment afte Romney's endorsement. They were all strong Romney supporters.
One person has already responded and was very excited.
I also let them know that I was contacting CPAC to see if they had any suggestions or were willing to help.
I also let them know that your website had only been up for a week and already had over 5000 hits.
Wow, just got another reply, Pixie is passing this site on to all her friends in Michigan. She is very enthusiastic. I expect you will be hearing from her.
I plan to post more comments tomorrow.
GO MITT!!
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It may take a while for the news of this blog site to circulate. According to Google, searching Romney right now has his endorsement of McCain dominating any and all news about him. If we could market this site on mittromney.com and all of the other Romney for President sites, all of the McCain sites, etc., we should get a considerable market force in place. Although, I don't know if Fredheads or Rudy's sites would go for it. But, it is worth a try I suppose. What we need to do though in terms of tactics is establish our own vision of a Romney Vice Presidency, build political buy-in through perhaps a non-profit political action, then seek contributions for media on the Internet, television, and radio. While this would not allow McCain or Romney to contribute, it would certainly place our objectives squarely in the public domain. Are their any takers on this idea?
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David,
I am willing to do what it takes. I even learned how to build a website all for the sake of this. You are very knowlegable and an excellent writer Feel free to email me what you think we should do. I personally have promoted the site in blogs on every major news site, sent the info to all the conservative talk show hosts who backed Romney via email. Posted on Romney support sites where they weren't inactive after the suspension, and several newspaper blogs, and my local papers and newstations. The site was barely built on Saturday, we haven't even finished our first week and I've had hundreds of distinctive hosts and over 5,000 hits so far. I would appreciate anything your experience can bring to the table. Thank you.
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Thank you Unite. I appreciate your confidence in me. I would like open for discussion the idea of putting together a political action committee as a tax-exempt organization designed to preserve conservative principles and contribute to the campaigns of those would safe-guard those principles.
Strengths:
1. More money to get our message out to the public
2. Extend the technology tools we have for getting the message out
3. Greater ability to influence legislation in safe-guarding our values through media contacts and members contacting their representatives in Congress
Weaknesses
1. Some of us would have to place our names on the necessary documents required by state and federal laws
2. We would likely come under some scrutiny by the public and the media particularly those who do not believe in the principles we share.
Opportunities
1. We could become quite influential through our members in choosing the nominee to the Republican party and the candidates for US Senate, US House or Representatives, State Governors, State Senates, State House of Represenatitves, County Commissioners, Mayors, City Council Members and even School Board Members.
2. Extending the ability to network with our members through regular reports of government actions
3. We could utilize smart card technology to market discount benefits at participating sponsorship merchants as a fundraising tool
4. Establish other charitable services that would build an life environment on concervative principles and values to compete against the liberal culture we currently live with.
5. We could make sure nobody gets near the nomination unless they have the full support of our conservative members through straw poll (fundraisers).
6. We could counter McCain-Fiengold Campaign Finance Reform. Political Action groups can give significantly more money to a campaign then individuals. Although, the candidates cannot contribute to our cause or be a decision-maker.
Threats
1. We could have other competitors within the conservative movement who would become more influential who would not necessarily represent our values and principles.
2. We could have significant issues with other national governments that are against our policies and positions.
This is a SWOT Analysis on what I see as positive and negative in putting together a political action group.
I am open for suggestions on the idea of a political action group representing our conservative values.
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Hi David and Unite,
In reference to David's point number 5., you should both go to gopusalist1@gopusa.com and read Thomas Segel's article "GOP Candidates and Office Holders Beware". It talks about making sure that all candidates hold to the true beliefs of the Republican Party.
With your internet skill and abilitie, the two of you might even find a way to contact Thomas Segel and see if he is interested in combining our efforts, etc. It would certainly increase our numbers!
I don't have the skills or knowledge to do this. But of course I do want to help in the areas that I can. I will definitely keep sending people to this website.
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David,
How many people are required to organize a PAC? What is the minimum number of names that would be required on the documentation filed that the public could see? Is there a website that talks about the organizing of a PAC that would be helpful for our bloggers to visit? What kind of scrutiny do you forsee we would experience? Thanks
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Unite,
It takes at least five people to organize a PAC. A PAC is merely a class of tax-exempt organizations. It would be a corporation that is used for political reform, lobbying, and other such activities. It would be my desire to see our PAC not only participate in these areas but to also do research activities on building a conservative society.
What we need right now is an e-commerce enabled page where we can collect membership information and collect funds say through a Paypall account or some other e-commerce solution. This will allow funds to flow in for operational use. Once we have cash flow coming in to our organization, we can finance the creation of our PAC. We just need to make sure we are fully disclosing our purpose for the funds and I can help with that.
Having put together charitable organizations myself (but never a PAC) working for a law firm in the past, I know that even though we are not officially a tax-exempt organization with the IRS, the term we would use is that we are tax-exempt dejur (or in process of). It means we don't have official recognition from the IRS yet in terms of an official letter of exemption. But, it also means we are working on it. Then, once we have officially obtained our letter of exemption, the term is tax-exempt de facto (a matter of fact).
All contributions coming in from the beginning will all be tax-exempt as long as we have met the requirements within the calendar year (January - December) of having our letter of exemption from the IRS. This allows our members to file their taxes for the past year and mention the contributions made. The IRS can then varify the existance of our tax-exempt organization in their database and grant our members their tax benefit. Now, it will likely take about six months to get our tax-exemption. My experience is that the IRS is rather anal retentive about these matters. They will assign us an agent to negotiate with our attorney with whom we can discuss what changes we need in order to make it exempt and that the agent will eventually sign-off on our application and we should get our official letter about a month later.
But, as far as raising funds now, we should get on that as quickly as possible. We should also have a few of our names on the account with someone who could keep an accurate accounting of everything. I am a professional bookkeeper by trade, but that does not mean that I am the one to do this work, unless it is agreed upon. I charge $1 per transaction (income or expense). If someone is willing to do it for less, I would have no problem allowing them to do so. We need to have as much ownership as possible by as many people as possible in order to help them feel like they are a part of the solution.
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Unite,
Why are we talking about forming a PAC, when we already have CPAC? Also, CPAC supports Romney for President!!! not VP. Why don't we join our efforts with them?? They are already national and organized and recognized and have power. Don't we just need find a way to join with them and support Romney??
Also, Unite, can you email me?
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I have recommended the formation of a PAC because it will bring together everyone who supports Romney. While CPAC supports Romney for President, they are not agressively moving the agenda for at least his potential seat as the vice president. Besides, our PAC will give Romney supporters a place to influence CPAC and other conservative PACs such as the Eagle Forum in getting Romney to become at the very least the McCain running mate for vice president.
One thing we don't want to do is lose all of the supporters of Mitt Romney between now and the 2012 election cycle. His name needs to stay on the minds of Americans. CPAC is not going to do that, they are to interested in maintaining whatever membership they have with Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul, Fred Thompson, John McCain, and Rudy Guiliani supporters without alienating them.
On the other hand, we are in better position to place Romney in the White House first as our Vice President and then our President because we are building this movement from the grass roots as a foundation and building upward to the national leaders. Besides, our PAC will also focus on building a conservative society from the liberal one we all live in now. There focus is to preserve conservatism in government. While I agree that we will need the help of CPAC, their help will be limited at best.
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Will Romney help McCain win?
No. Condi Rice, JcWatts, or another notable black or woman will. Give the indipendents/modersates something to VOTE FOR in the Republican side.
However, I would RATHER see Romney back IN THE RACE (un-suspend) and elected. He too would need a black or a woman running mate. Otherwise, two white men will be the choice to Obama or Clinton. Bad move.
Thanks!
JJ
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McCain is already someone independents and moderates can vote for, at least according to their blog sites. If there are two moderates on the ticket, what does that give to the conservatives? It gives us nobody to at least provide a balance of power in the McCain administration. People are not voting for gender or race only, a candidates stand or vision on those issues are still a major factor in this race. I think Michael Reagan (the oldest son of Ronald Reagan) said it best when he said "we need to build our coalition from the bottom up rather than top down." Everything begins with the grass roots supporters. Ron Paul has proven that it works in this political cycle. He just does not have enough of them. I am just saying that in terms of a case study to learn from, Ron Paul had unwavering supporters who contributed a great deal of money to his campaign.
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Will Romney help McCain win?
No. Condi Rice, JcWatts, or another notable black or woman will. Give the indipendents/modersates something to VOTE FOR in the Republican side.
However, I would RATHER see Romney back IN THE RACE (un-suspend) and elected. He too would need a black or a woman running mate. Otherwise, two white men will be the choice to Obama or Clinton. Bad move.
Thanks!
JJ
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I agree with you JJ. My ideal ticket would have been a Romney-Rice ticket, but I really don't think it's a matter of appealing to just the voters. You have to appeal to voters who are backers, supporters and who really get actively involved. They are the ones who influence and make a difference. Romney has that support base. McCain will need Romney's support base if he is to win. If he chooses someone else, he deserves to lose.
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Thanks Unite,
I am happy to hear there have been so many coming to this site. I will certainly continue to send people. Hey did everybody hear that Ann Coulter said she WOULD vote for McCain if he put Romney on the ticket? That should get the word out.
I am going to try to post a comment on her website and give this website to her followers.
Go Romney!!
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Romney has got to keep his stand against illegal immigration and NO AMNESTY. And McCain has to adopt Romney's stand against illegal immigration. Our laws and borders must be enforced and protected. I personally don't like to see Romney suck up to McCain for the VP role. Romney should be the one who is President.
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I'm with you, Lisa!! I really want Romney for President. I was wondering last night, what if we put all our efforts toward putting him on the ballot as President, if there is no clear candidate before the convention. I truly believe a brokered convention would give the ballot to Romney.
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Romney does not want a brokered convention. This is the reason he has chosen to support John McCain as the nominee of the GOP. According to Mitt Romney's statement, he said, "It is time to unite the Republican Party behind the nominee." Romney then commited all of his delegates to McCain. His reasoning was to make it harder for the Democrat nominee to win in the national primaries.
I also wish Romney would get the presidency in 2008. But, he is not. I believe in him in making him the 2008 running mate to John McCain and the 2012 president-elect. I think this is the best we can hope for.
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I do not believe that Romney is opposed to a "brokered convention". What Romney is opposed to is a "spit party" which would give the Demaocrats the election.
A "brokered convention" simply means that no candidate had enough delegates to win the nomination before the convention. When this happens, with not clear winner, it sometimes takes two or three ballots to choose the Republican nominee.
The only candidate who does NOT want a brokered convention is John McCain. He knows that if he cannot tie up the nomination before the convention, then he will probably NOT get it.
I TOTALLY agree with Unitethegop, a LARGE part of our game plan should be to keep people from voting for McCain in the remaining primaries and caucuses.
Actually, even if they vote for Huckabee or Romney, it shows that we do not support McCain.
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I think there is plenty of time left for the momentum to shift towards McCain. And we'd never forgive ourselves if McCain won and we never even fought to get Mitt on the ticket.
What's the harm in demanding that McCain choose Mitt as VP and swear off amnesty and a few other things before we throw him our support?
So many things can still happen between now and November. Those who assume a McCain loss, do so at their peril.
If McCain wins without Mitt, then Mitt may be precluded from the presidency forever. McCain's VP would be the front-runner in 2012 or 2106. I am not even so sure if a McCain/Romney ticket were to lose that it would be so terribly detrimental to Mitt. He could differentiate himself enough from McCain to run again successfully.
However, with Mitt on the ticket, we don't need to worry about losing -- we can win! Isn't it better to be proactive, get Mitt on the ticket and fight to win, rather than just sitting around hoping McCain doesn't win without Mitt?
However, if McCain doesn't choose Mitt, I might just vote for Hillary, along with Ann Coulter!
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Hi Everyone,
I would like to invite everyone to to to www.gopusa.com and read an article by Thomas Segel, entitled "GOP Candidates and Officd Holders Beware".There is a revolving picture on the home page of the site. Wait for Thomas Segal's picture to come aroung.
His article addresses the fact that many of you have talked about. . . . The Republican Party seems to be moving away from our conservative beliefs. I think you will really like the article.
Also, on page two of the article there is a petition to sign entitled "Support the Contract with Conservatives" which many of you may want to sign.
Check it out, I think you'll like it.
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I want to apologize for all the typos.
Also, if everyone on this website who agreed signed the petition, that could be 5000 signatures!!!!
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Hopefully McCain can see that integrity gets people somewhere in this life. Romney symbolizes and upholds the values that this country was founded upon and needs to survive. I think that it is a shock to people that there is actually someone out there that stands behind their words and actions. McCain would be foolish not to invite "Mitt the Man" to do lunch with him. Go Mitt!!
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